What does science tell us about God? from Mark Harvey on Vimeo.
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I emailed my piece to the participants and had brief exchange with Lewy who was absolutely charming and has a very good scenario of what would make him believe in God.
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A debate between Cowburn and someone who had a different interpretation of scriptures and their veracity would have been interesting - someone who could argue about the real authors of the gospels, as I once saw argued on a TV documentary, because we know the authors weren't the disciples.
Cowburn's entire religious conviction rests on someone writing down that Jesus said: 'I am God. I am the living proof.' That's his so-called 'pinch-point'. That's the evidence that God exists: someone 2000 years ago said, 'I am God,' recorded some decades after his death one might add. Cowburn admits that without Jesus' direct testimony he would have no reason to believe in God.
Regards, Paul.
you little morons...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NHUbdqNb1A
the atheist sins not only against God, but also against man...
Atheist:
have you for but a moment considered that you have adopted a position against 98% of the human race, both past and present?
do you think you are RIGHT and they are all WRONG?
WRONG
now listen to this arrogant puffed up son of a bitch....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilWM7jIEN_k
visit
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-culture/89170-atheism-dead-forever-canadian-did.html
to see how the NEW ATHEIST MOVEMENT has been annihilated
please, some comment moderation on your blasphemy
I found wolpert a little frustrating at times in that debate. There were many points at which he could have completely torn cowburn a new one but just didn't. Like his 'tude in general though.
Religions that postulated the existence of animal-gods preceded those that postulated the existence of antropomorphic gods...
This fact undermines a bit his account of the origin of religion.
When a creationist says everything was created 10,000 years ago in the space of a week you can't show them a million year old fossil to prove them wrong because they can always say "well my omnipotent God put it there to test our faith".
That is, science can neither prove nor disprove that everything that happens in the universe isn't the doing of God. However, what science is really really good at is offering rational, evidence based explanations as to how natural phenomena can occur which don't require the existence of some supernatural being in order to explain them. How do diseases spread? Germ theory. Where did humans come from? Evolution through process of natural selection. How do the stars shine? Energy release through thermonuclear fusion.
Science can never disprove the God hypothesis but it can give people less and less need to have one in the first place.
So that means that
(a) the omnipotent God is a deceiver
(b) is not omnipotent enough to devise a test of faith without such parlour tricks - thats what all that evil and suffering is for right?
c) is not omnipotent enough to give us faith that doesn't need testing. Its not as if we couldn't have perfect faith and still have free will.
Anyway is it not more likely that, if you accept that God created the world, the logical conclusion is that the Christian Bible is wrong in that respect? We know it is man made, written down, translated and edited by fallible human beings. Whereas all the evidence in non man-made creation points to billions of years. Which do we believe - all the (consistent, reproducible) evidence God left around the place or some book without credible attribution? Put it another way which requires Godlike powers - running the Universe for billions of years or scribbling on a bit of parchment?
Did it get any better?